等待FE103中，没事做在寻找箱体，好无聊

Leon428

虽然大家都看过了，但将这一贴补充到最全：）

Leon428

以下是引用aZhu在2004-9-9 16:27:00的发言：
FE166E背负号角，原厂的，，做一对多少钱？

转贴的啦，可不是我做得哦

aZhu

FE166E背负号角，原厂的，，做一对多少钱？

Leon428

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The crossover network

This is one of those things you just have to design by ear. No computer simulations here. I had tried simulating it with the help of software but what measured good and what sounded good were two different worlds. All that is used here is a simple notch filter to lower the midrange output level to match the bass and treble better. Even though the drivers used are rather cheap I would advise to use the best filter components you can get (there are only three per speaker so I won’t cost that much). The inductor must have an air-core for no saturation and low distortion. The lower Rdc the better, it improves bass response. It is amazing how sensitive the capacitor is, using a standard Audyn Cap MKP or similar is a waste! A good price/quality ratio is achieved with a LeClanché or Solen Fast Cap. When a high-end Audyn Cap Plus, Mundorf Supreme Cap or Hovland Musicap is used the amount of extra clarity and detailing is unbelievable. I used a metal oxide resistor, here again personal taste will determine what is needed, standard cemented resistors are out of the question.

Filter components:

L = 0,82 mH air-core inductor 2,00 mm wire, R = 0,15 W (tolerance max 2%)

C = 4,7mF MKP polypropylene foil capacitor - Audyn Cap Plus, Mundorf Supreme Cap or Solen Fast Cap (tolerance max 2%)

R = 10 W  10 watts metal film resistor (tolerance max 2%)

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[推荐]FE103E TQWT喇叭套件装机说明

在DZ規劃低音反射箱體的FOSTEX FE103E全音域喇叭套件的同時，我們也在探討另一種箱體的可能性。在我們的想像中，DZ應該替世界各地的網友完成最困難的部分：「木箱規劃與生產」，然後，讓讀者自由的、輕鬆的去更換各種不同設計的箱體，調整內部的吸音棉，從而達到控制喇叭音色與音質表現的目地。

怎樣的箱體最具特色？以FOSTEX FE103E來說，密閉式箱體未必能提供最佳的表現（除非您打算將他當成一個頻率響應非常寬廣的中音單體使用，如此一來，就可以將分頻點移開人耳最敏感的800Hz~3KHz）；低音反射式的設計，則提供一個體積與音質的平衡點，特別適合在空間侷限的場合使用，加上有FOSTEX原廠的推薦設計圖，要裝機成功，真是易如反掌！

令人迷戀的管道設計
在反覆的思考後，我憶起當年對傳輸線喇叭的熱情與偏愛，那種充滿魅力的音質，真是令人難以忘懷。該怎麼形容呢？就是那種極為「精緻細膩」的低頻，或許是使用小型單體的關係，傳輸線箱體的低頻在速度上獲得完美的控制，然後又能獲得一般大尺寸低音單體無法體會到的「沈穩」「自然」，簡直到了令人迷戀的程度。

不過，傳輸線（Transmission Line）喇叭的設計是很罕見的，他的概念很簡單：「1/4波長的管道、正確的Damping阻尼物」，兩句話，幾乎沒啥好用的公式與輔助軟體（就算有，也不是很精確，不像低音反射箱體的理論相當完備），一切全憑各家獨門秘笈硬幹，也因為Know-How高深，所以價格隨之高漲，大大的箱體加上小小的單體意味高度昂貴的價格！

圖說：這是製造廠依照FOSTEX原廠建議所繪製的CAD電腦模擬圖。我們原本想要實際找一個TQWT喇叭箱橫切，直接切出嚇人的管道剖面圖，不過想到得因此犧牲一只喇叭箱，造成成本的提升，這部分，還是讓讀者自己從文內的設計圖與喇叭箱實體上來欣賞吧！
第一次製作這樣的喇叭，是在十年多前，因為嫌雜誌社販售的箱體太過昂貴，於是自己找了木板切割，搞出一個以KEF CS-1A（B110中低音+T27高音，已經停產）為核心的Daline喇叭（傳輸線箱體的一種變形），隨手找了玻璃纖維填充，聲音相當棒，迷人得很，只是未經修飾的外表實在不怎麼令人討喜。後來，又陸陸續續的針對不同的單體試做了幾種傳輸線式的箱體，包括這次介紹的TQWT設計，我的感覺是，傳輸線設計並不是特別難以碰觸，主要的關鍵還是在於成本上，即便是高度精簡的管道設計，也不利於量產。

但這種複雜的箱體，其實非常適合DIY迷嘗試。理由很簡單，因為對製造商來說，他不可能為每種偏好花時間去微調，調整吸音棉的位置與比例，但這卻是DIY玩家的樂趣所在！譬如說，DZ這次推出的TQWT箱體，內部包含的吸音棉，是我們實驗多時取得的平衡點，如果您想要更俐落的聲響（要更有勁道），那可以把從管道開口的吸音棉減少一點；如果您想要更深沈的低頻，則可以將吸音棉的份量加重些許，將會獲得更為平緩的延伸。

TQWT裝機難度不高
同樣是傳輸線管道設計，TQWT的實作難度顯然降低不少，因為同樣在1/4波長的管道長度中，TQWT的錐形管道可以不折彎，也可以僅折彎一道，讓加工技術簡單許多。不過，說來簡單，但也不能隨手塗鴉就完成一則商業化的設計，否則如何量產成為成熟的喇叭套件？

「抄」，是我腦中的第一個念頭。FE103E是抄用FOSTEX原廠推薦設計，萬無一失，那TQWT呢？

「還是抄」。別說DZ不長進，而是這種憑藉經驗值的複雜設計，光靠自己瞎摸是不行的，一定得累積前人的經驗，看看人家是怎麼失敗、怎麼成功，做為自身的設計的基礎才行。於是，憑著當初找FOSTEX單體在美國、中國大陸（香港）與日本代理商累積的人脈資源，發出request，最終獲得這一則充分獲得實證、原廠推薦的TQWT箱體：
這則設計其實在網路上流傳甚久，不過說真的，造一個喇叭箱也不是小事，總得花力氣、花金錢的，既然有原廠願意背書支持，於是我們立刻找了台灣本地的工廠打樣（打樣在台灣，量產則得靠大陸地區的製造廠才能提供優異的價格與品質了），要不了兩週，樣品來了，乖乖，這個喇叭箱比想像中大，雖然稱不上巨大，但顯然是可以省了索價不斐的腳架，就算擺在客廳中，也絲毫不會有小氣的感覺。

玩喇叭調音，我的經驗是：「一切從零開始」。先將單體鎖上，一點吸音棉也不塞，接上擴大機聽聽，咦？低頻是有了，音場的規模也有大喇叭的架勢（閉上眼，您應該會以為是大喇叭），但嗡嗡聲較重，顯然需要適度的吸音阻尼抑制，獲得音色上的平衡。

漸次加大吸音棉的份量，嗡嗡聲漸漸的掃除，取而代之的，則是更為深沈的低頻質感，這樣搞了一天，利用下班前，狠狠的用SF106N-150W給他操一操，唱上一整夜，雖然用的是上次裝低音反射箱體的FE103E單體，不過還是先活絡筋骨再說。

未來的兩個月中，幾乎就是在暖機-調整吸音棉中度過，用過一般的保麗棉（跟水族箱過濾棉是相同的東西），也用過DZ的波浪吸音棉，效果都很不賴，不過，以DIY套件來說，顯然保麗棉比較

Leon428

大卫[原创]FOSTEX FE-126E箱体尺寸已经敲定！请看！

手头的琐事终于告一个段落。昨天和前天，大卫根据FE-126的参数进行了计算，取得了一系列的号筒箱渐变指数数据，并以其为基础，当然也参考了个别现有的箱体的设计实例，敲定了专门针对FE－126E单元的后加载式号筒箱设计图。
请看下图。

另外，FE－126E原厂家提供的貌似后加载号筒箱的箱体设计，严格来说，并非真正意义上的号筒箱。喇叭背面的腔体加大了近一倍，并加装了一个倒相管，是一种倒相和后加载号筒的混血结构。这种设计非常独特，但大卫担心的是，从号筒音道导出的谐振波在号筒开口部与倒相管的共振波相遇时，是否会产生副作用，这很值得玩味。不过既然是厂家提供的设计，估计有一定的道理。

此图漏画了两根线，现已更正。（板24的边缘漏画
下料图如下。当然因具体情况不同，完全可以不根据此图下料。仅供参考。

一对箱体需用18mm厚中密度纤维板约2张半，当然亦可使用高密度板。若因某种原因非得用15mm板材，则上图尺寸需要更改。15mm板材的箱体尺寸图可向大卫索取，在此不做公布（强烈建议使用18mm板材）。

Leon428

蓝色童话

。。。。。。。。。

Leon428

要是做小导向箱我觉得箱体材料有高密度板就足够了，如果是号角箱就考虑夹板吧

什么我忘了

箱体材料用夹板好还是原木好？

lm3886

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lm3886

等待FE103中，没事做在寻找箱体，好无聊

等待FE103中，没事做在寻找箱体，好无聊

等待FE103中，没事做在寻找箱体，好无聊

zhuwing

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