VISATON单元的箱子做好了，交个报告

Leon428

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Leon428

个人初步的感觉是，分频点取低，低频表现较好，中频变薄，分频点取高，中频很美，低频表现就不好，觉得此单元非常适合做中音喇叭，或者双低音并联，由于做箱体时做了两对，打算一对给VISATON用，一对用于A501，前两天闲来无事，又装了一对VISATON低音到另外一对箱子上，将这个低音并联在原来书架箱的低音喇叭上，两只音箱叠起来，主要是想试验双低音效果如何，此时低音出来了，中频也变厚，可能低音灵敏度变高，高音有些暗，将分频器又调整了一下整个效果很不错了，初步试验到这里，下一步打算还是好好调校书架箱，看看结果如何，也期待桂男兄的结果，桂男兄能否将你的分频器设计思路与图纸共享一下好作个参考。

abcdefg

现在那里可以买到VISATON 6.5 ，大概多少M

Leon428

5寸的要135,坛子里imkevin卖的5寸比较便宜

以下是引用abcdefg在2005-1-17 19:44:00的发言：
现在那里可以买到VISATON<I></I> 6.5<I></I> ，大概多少M

http://www.hifi-efax.com/hot.htm

Leon428

记得在95-96年那时候VISATON在杂志上半什么DIY音箱大赛，用的就是W170S和DT94，箱子型号是ALTO1，当时一套不含箱体的套件是1780元，不过似乎没有炒起来。
说起170S，估计现在要玩只有到东讯买单元了，虽说180元一支不算很贵，但性价比有待考察，而130S和G20FFL单元有许多烧友在卖，比东讯便宜很多，性价比相对要高些，如果这对单元玩好了，性价比不言而喻，希望买了这个单元的同学都努努力，大家共同研究下：）

imkevin

看来大家对该单元是下了不少功夫去把玩啊，小弟虽然拿到此单元多日，但是真正去认真地去感受这套单元也是近大半个月做好了此对密闭箱开始的。
根据自己对此套单元试听的初步感受：低音单元中频甜美，有很高的分析力，高音单元声音纤细，但是下限较高，故想借此做一对箱体不强调低频，让其有低音染的音色，只求有质感的低频，故我把此单元做成了密闭箱。当时的想法是做一对外观仿LS3／5A的箱体的，无奈与箱体制作人在制作过程中的沟通不足，出来了这对东西，大家也就别笑小弟的箱体了：［
经过近日的试听，以及对多款高音单元的试听比较，以及与本人原有的国光6.5寸皱皮盘箱比较试听，个人感觉如下：
1. 高音单元的确有其缺陷，包括高频下限太低，音色感觉有点硬，声音虽是纤细却不够讨好人，实在是有点令人失望。可能是其精细的外观工艺给人的期望值有点高吧，呵呵。而此单元的高频下限太低又影响了分频器的制作。
2. 我曾经做过两套分频器，第一套分频点取3Khz,高音18dB/oct ,低音12dB/oct，接上单元试听后明显感觉中频很朦，声音很闷，听不下去，后来还是用高音低音均为二阶，高音衰减1dB的方式制作了一套分频器，这下声音比原来好多了，中频声音甜美，分析力很高，高频细致，总的来说，中高频还是令人很满意的，但是其高分析力的中频令我听我比较喜欢听的DIANA KRALL那如丝般的嗓音又少了点味道，计划还要调整分频网络，同时想根据低音单元的阻抗曲线引入阻抗补偿网络，我也订了坛里的测量套件，调试就等他了。
3. 低音单元应该还是不太适合作密闭，LIGM兄曾经建议我把他做成迷官的箱体，想象中感觉做成迷官应该能加强低频的量感和质感，只是小弟无场地无条件自己做箱体，订做如此的箱体太贵了，一直无法下手，那位兄弟有机会试一试？
4.小弟本周计划根据测量的单元数据配合另一款高音重新设计做一对倒相箱（只等LP大人批下预算就动手了），不过快过年了，不知道音箱厂家的货期怎么样，反正是订做箱体和重做分频器一起动手了。
5.再说回现在我做的密闭箱，听其低频，播炎黄第一鼓，明显就是缺乏量感了，质感还很不错，鼓声很真实，有质感，把功放的直通去调，音调的低频段提升，虽是不怎么发烧的做法，但是；感觉声音平衡多了，听上去也更舒服自然，这时候听炎黄第一鼓还有点气势哦。该套单元的中频确实有点特色，声音很甜美，菜琴的歌声从他那里出来仿佛也要年轻几岁
希望大家继续交流此单元的把玩心得，我一定会用心去做我的倒相箱的了，同时也要参考大伙的意见啊。

VISATON单元的箱子做好了，交个报告

imkevin

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imkevin

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